Lancs Roman Roads

The Roman Road from Manchester to Melandra Castle

Margary Number: 711

Distance: 12 miles

At long last the route of this road has been found thanks to Neil Buckley, who spotted a tell-tale length of Roman agger at Matley. This aligns perfectly with Ashton Old Road - a bit of a clue that name - which has enabled the route to be determined with reasonably high confidence.

The road was clearly set out on the Longdendale Valley and passes Melandra fort one mile to its north. A road agger was recently discovered in the Longdendale valley so it all fits together. By Bottoms Reservoir, Tintwistle, Lidar shows a clear junction between the main road and almost certainly a link road to the fort. There would perhaps have been another link road for Manchester traffic and a suggestion for this is shown below.

Until the correct alignment was found there were two competing suggestions. The first by Dr. Michael Nevell (reference: Tameside before 1066) who suggested a route just north of Ashton Old Road before heading south-east for Broomstair Bridge. The second is a line shown on modern OS map via Hyde New Road and again via Broomstair Bridge. These can now be safely discounted.

Note 1: Melandra is modern name for the fort and its Roman name was possibly Ardotalia.

Note 2: I have used Margary's number 711 for this road but his description of it was very confused.

 

 

Historic Counties: Lancashire, Cheshire & Derbyshire

Current County: Greater Manchester & Derbyshire

HER: Greater Manchester & Derbyshire

 

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Manchester Roman Road Map - Green's Map 1787-94

The courses of the Melandra Road and those to Castleshaw and Buxton are somewhat speculative in city centre Manchester. What we are reasonably secure on is the alignment of both the Castleshaw Road and that to Melandra. Projecting these into Manchester then a reasonable guess can be made at where they joined up - a little to the north of the UMIST main building. This does fit logically with the courses of the River Medlock and Shooter's Brook.The latter does still exist as an underground culvert.

However, routes in city centre Manchester should be regarded as speculative.

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Full Route - Lidar Image

What a straight forward and direct route but it was clearly targeting the Longdendale Valley rather than Melandra Fort as it passes it a mile to its north. This is however, not a unique occurrence and indicates a through route to somewhere in Yorkshire (as yet unknown) was the primary destination.

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Full Route - Opendata Map

Yes quite a bit of the route is dotted but I think we can be reasonably confident as to its course. There are suggestions that its course was north of Ashton Old Road but old maps show the field boundaries consistent with the modern road and not an alternative on its north side.

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Oblique 3D Lidar Image - looking east

We are above Piccadilly Railway Station looking east towards the Longdendale Valley. Ashton Old Road, despite being improved in the turnpike era, is almost certainly based on the original Roman alignment.

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Route Map 1 - Lidar & Opendata map

There doesn't really seem any reason to doubt that Ashton Old Road is not derived from the Roman alignment. That subtle turn at Fairfield aligns with an old length of road in Audenshaw, now altered by the northern end of the reservoirs. That cannot be a coincidence.

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OS First Edition Map Lancashire 105

This map dates to pre the reservoirs and shows how that slight turn at the end of Aston Old Road aligns with a stretch of road through Audenshaw and over Hooley Hill to Matley. Hooley Hill would have been a good sighting point for the alignment and making use of it would be a typical surveying technique of the Romans.

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Route Map 2 - Lidar & Opendata map

That old road in Audenshaw was perfectly aligned with the agger at Matley spotted by Neil Buckley. With modern developments in between there is slim hope of finding anything surviving today.

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Oblique 3D Lidar Image - looking west

We are now above Matley looking back towards Manchester. The alignment with Ashton Old Road is obvious.

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Lidar Image, Matley (high resolution)

This is the agger that Neil spotted and changed everything! The line even appears to continue on the aerial photo, where the Lidar data currently ends.

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Dukinfield Golf Course

Lidar shows a short length of agger on the edge of the golf course - see above. In these views we are in the same spot. Left is looking towards Manchester and right is looking east.

Left: the agger and north ditch has survived despite golf course landscaping.

Right; the road inclines down to almost certainly a bridge site for crossing the stream. There are even masonry blocks in the stream at the bottom of the incline but nowhere else - possibly remnants of the Roman bridge?

Image: DR

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Agger north of Matley Lane 1

Near the Rising Moon pub the agger is visible north of Matley Lane (right). Obvious from this distance but when you stand on it then it all but disappears!

In the left image we are stood on the line looking back towards Dukinfield Golf Course & Manchester. Neil (the discoverer of the agger here) is perhaps on the line of the south ditch.

Image: DR

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Agger north of Matley Lane 2

This is the field east of the one above. The agger is most obvious on the fence line - the fence actually humps over the road.

The alignment of the road is aiming to get through the natural valley between Scout Moor and Harrop Edge.

Image: DR

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Harrop Edge view to Manchester

This spot could have been one of the setting-out points for the road but perhaps the high point on the Golf Course was an alternative. From either the sighting would probably have been to Hooley Hill. The latter is just visible before the reservoirs at Audenshaw.

The cutting in the next image is behind the camera in this view.

Image: Neil Buckley

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Roman Cutting - between Harrop Edge Road & Matley Lane 1

The initial start of Harrop Edge Road appears to mark the Roman line. However, just up the slope there is cutting to the right (north) of the modern road which is almost certainly the Roman alignment. Matley Road is in a modern post-Roman cutting to the right.

The skyscrapers of Manchester mark the route of the road.

Image: DR

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Roman Cutting - Harrop Edge looking east

We are still in the Roman cutting but now looking east. The route would have been left of the red house and up Hobson Moor Road. It would then have turned off to the right roughly near the skyline.

Image: DR

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Route Map 3 - Lidar & Opendata map

The terrain gets hillier approaching Tintwistle so the straight alignment now has to adapt to the contours but the actual route has not been located here with any certainty. The junction at Bottoms Reservoir is clear in the full resolution lidar.

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Rabbit Lane Cottages

Just beyond Roe Cross, the link road to Melandra Castle likely turned off and went via the Coach Road to the fort but the main alignment probably carried straight on in front of Rabbit Lane Cottages.

Image: Neil Buckley

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Melandra link road - Lidar & Opendata map

That probable junction at Bottoms Reservoir can only realistically have been for a link road to the fort. The suggested route is speculative but probably close to reality.

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Lidar Image - possible link road for Manchester

There is some evidence on the aerial photo and the Lidar image for this being perhaps the link road to the fort for traffic from the Manchester direction. It is a logical route without climbing or fighting contours.

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3D Oblique Lidar Image - Melandra Castle

Viewed from the north, the fort shows up extremely well but it would appear in the recent past that there has been "remodeling" so perhaps not quite original.

Visible is a road heading left (north-east) for the Longdendale Valley - almost certainly the link road to the east.

For details of the fort site see - Glossop Heritage Trust

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Lidar Image - Longdendale Valley

We are now in Derbyshire so will leave our road here. It is clearly aiming for somewhere in Yorkshire - a puzzle that perhaps wont be solved until full lidar coverage is available.........

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Last update: January 2020

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